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How do you choose a good breeder? What should you look for? I own 2 now, and I've obviously done it wrongly as others have told me? So I want to know for future reference so I know better? If that makes since? I'm here to learn.
 

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I personally will never buy from a breeder who doesn't meet the following criteria in their breeding program.

1 - Extensive health testing on both parenting dogs. This isn't the same as bringing them to the vets for a check up. If you're not familiar with health tests please look them up to learn more.
2 - Is willing to send proof of these health tests. They can tell me until they're blue in the face that they health testing, but I want proof!
3 - Is involved in conformation or working their dogs. This to me proves that they have a reason for wanting to breed other than to fill a "boxer puppy demand".
4 - Actually screens potential buyers to make sure that they would make a suitable home for one of their puppies.

There are also a host of other questions that I'd want answers for. For example, I'd want to know how many times they breed any given female over her lifetime. When they retire their females from breeding. The frequency in which they have litters.

If a breeder is having multiple litters a year just to fill the demand for puppies, I would have zero interest!
 

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Okay thankyou! I know back to back breedings are bad. And I knew about testing, but I'll research more on the specifics and get more educated. I'm sure there are only a few in Texas that do this. And where I live, I'm sure its to "fill the boxer need." I've learned my lesson about BYB and am a reformed one as of this month thanks to the information I have learned on here. :/ Thankyou!
 

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We actually did a search for breeders in our area. There's even one website that will look for breeders for you, but i don recall what it was:-/ but def ask how often they breed. Our breeder had four females they bred once a year. Two brindle and two flashy fawn. I would start by doing a general search in your area or sounding areas. We got our baby 2.5 hours away and he was worth every bit of that drive!


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Yeah, there are pups around, but not the best quality. There are people in MO, but thats a ways from us. Maybe a roadtrip would be in order? I dk. We shall see when we come to that.
 

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Yeah, there are pups around, but not the best quality. There are people in MO, but thats a ways from us. Maybe a roadtrip would be in order? I dk. We shall see when we come to that.
I just got home from work so am playing catch up. Read your previous thread first and came across this one. Am a little confused as to what it is you are trying to accomplish here. I thought from the last thread you were upset over a breeding experience and wanted to know what is best for your dog's. This thread gives the impression you are trying to figure out what steps you need to take to become a reputable breeder since the focus is on finding pup's? I think other's established in the previous thread that your current boxer's should not be bred. You agreed. But then I came across this so is your goal to be become a reputable breeder? Your asking about purchasing more pup's so it seem's reasonable to conclude you want to breed?
 

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No. If I ever decided to get another pup after Tara or Diesel are gone, I just wanted to know what approach I would need to take. My dogs wont be bred anymore. Tara is too old, and Diesel is Cont. Kc. So if I ever wanted to become a rep. breeder, I would have to buy from one and learn their ways.. but thats wayy far down the road. I just wanted to learn what I need to look for and what all I need to stay away from.
 

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It's hard to get out of that damn first impression. IM NOT BREEDING MY DOGS ANYMORE... <<<< RE READ. lol.


I just want to know how you all worked and picked out your pups. I'm happy with my two now.
 

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Well I messed up. I got Duke from a BYB. His father has amazing champion filled lines and his mother does not, but she is a soundly built, good looking Boxer.

Now that I know better this is what I want:
1. Health testing. I want practically every test recommended for the breed.
2. A build I like. Honestly, I'm loving the UK/Continetial American cross Boxers more than most straight US Boxers. I'm hopefully looking for my foundation bitch so I'm being picky. I want the dog I buy to be as close to my ideal as possible. I want square, good heads, (I really can't stand a non-proportional head), thick build, good topline, as great of angles as I can get.
3. I'd like them to be raised on a raw diet with limited vaccines. I really believe vaccination and diet plays a big part in health and longetivity.
4. Health/longetivity. I want a dog that I can have around for at least 10 years if possible. I won't go for lines that have DM starting around 7-8 years, dogs dying before 9-10. It's not what I want. Most of the dogs in Duke's pedigree lived 12+ years so I know it's possible.
5. Be involved in conformation/working/maybe performance. I want to see a dog that looks good and still has the drive to work.
6. True to the history. This is a big thing with me. I want a dog that truly fits the temperament and history part of the standard. I want drive, alertness, and protection instincts. If lacking those I'm not as impressed. Boxerd should be wary of strangers when needed. They should have that on/off switch and that's what I want.
 

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Okay thankyou! I know back to back breedings are bad. And I knew about testing, but I'll research more on the specifics and get more educated. I'm sure there are only a few in Texas that do this. And where I live, I'm sure its to "fill the boxer need." I've learned my lesson about BYB and am a reformed one as of this month thanks to the information I have learned on here. :/ Thankyou!
Back to back breeding aren't necessarily bad. Breeding back to back 5 times is obviously bad, but breeding once waiting a year then breeding back to back is fine. It can actually be beneficial to the bitch. They goo through the same cycle and hormonal imbalalnces whether they are pregnant or when their cycle comes. Hence why you get phantom pregnancies sometimes. That's how I learned it at least.
 

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Back to back breeding aren't necessarily bad. Breeding back to back 5 times is obviously bad, but breeding once waiting a year then breeding back to back is fine. It can actually be beneficial to the bitch. They goo through the same cycle and hormonal imbalalnces whether they are pregnant or when their cycle comes. Hence why you get phantom pregnancies sometimes. That's how I learned it at least.
why would they be good.. they deplete mom of nutrients and it is a lot of hard work.... my breeder retired hers after three litters for moms sake... no because pups are unhealthy.. that is way better in my opinion than a puppy machine.. I sure as hell would not want to be pregnant continually..... not sure why a boxer would want to be either...
 

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Well I wont have dogs capable to breed soon anyway. But I just wanted to know what was considered reputable or not. And what would you look for in a new pup (if I ever got a new one). I wont be breeding, just wondering about the process as I was doing wrong before.
 

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I posted in the other forum the short version:

Yes. My female is possibly. I had a bad expirence with BYB so I'm a newly reformed BYB. BUT that doesnt save my female from possibly already being pregnant. :/ But were taking all the precautions.
 

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why would they be good.. they deplete mom of nutrients and it is a lot of hard work.... my breeder retired hers after three litters for moms sake... no because pups are unhealthy.. that is way better in my opinion than a puppy machine.. I sure as hell would not want to be pregnant continually..... not sure why a boxer would want to be either...
Most bitches cycle every 9-12 months from what I've heard. (There's always outlyers though.) So this gives a good 5-6 months in between litters and nursing. Most bitches are back in shape after this and some breeders will breed again. It just depends on how the bitch is. Their organs go through the same stress whether pregnant or not, of course minus actual birthing. They go through the same process mentally too. You can have phantom pregnancies where they go through everything, nesting, lactating, etc. It's the same mental and physically kind of thing. It's sort of hard to explain, but if you're interested.

As far as nutrients that's definitely true and why mos supplment with different things to help the bitch. It is hard work, but from what I've seen most of the girls are back to normal by 8 weeks.
 
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