[valshingle]

About 2-3 months ago, I got a 3 yr old intact female who needed to be rehomed due to another dog in the household being aggressive to her. I am an experienced dog and Boxer owner, but I have not run across this problem before. This girl came from a 100 acre farm and had been kept in a pen. She is housebroken to a point, but she will not go potty while on a leash. I live on 12.5 acres, but my property is not completely surrounded by dog proof fencing. Her recall is not good enough to let her off leash to potty, which is what she wants. I have tried a collar, a harness, a flexi-leash, praise, and treats, but she will not poop while on a leash. She barely pees while on a leash. I have spent 15-20 mins out with her, and she still won't go. I've allowed her to be lose in the house at night, and she'll poop in a corner while I'm asleep. I will start crating her at night again, but am wondering if anyone has some suggestions. I'm saving up to put up a small fenced yard, but could use some immediate ideas.

 

[chip18]

Well, first thank you for rescuing her!

And I also have not dealt with this? And most likely would not even see it? Because I do have a "fenced in yard," but you know lot's of people have dog's and they live in apartments, so you don't "need a fenced yard to have a dog, but it does make life easier, if you do!

And do you work away from home? Or is there someone with her during the day?

 

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I have a suggestion on this it would be the next time she poops in the house take the poop outside to where you want her to eliminate and the next time you take her out take her to that spot. I would suggest like a kinda enclosed type area with bushes or trees nearby that may give her the right idea. I house train all my puppies like this and it works very well. Don’t clean up the poop for awhile till she knows this is her potty area. She apparently hasn’t had much house training so starting back at the beginning might help

 

[owlsnest]

Maybe she thinks peeing on a walk means having to end the walk and go home. Have you tried longer walks a couple times a day? Can you have a friend's dog come over, and walk them together. Can you put her on a tie-out so she can lie in the sun, long enough to pee near a tree? I read dogs can become fearful, and generalize it. If they might be walking by a mailbox. and are startled by a noise, they become afraid of mail boxes. Patricia McConnelly has good booklets. I used Cautious Canines to desensitize a dog.

 

[valshingle]

Maybe she thinks peeing on a walk means having to end the walk and go home. Have you tried longer walks a couple times a day? Can you have a friend's dog come over, and walk them together. Can you put her on a tie-out so she can lie in the sun, long enough to pee near a tree? I read dogs can become fearful, and generalize it. If they might be walking by a mailbox. and are startled by a noise, they become afraid of mail boxes. Patricia McConnelly has good booklets. I used Cautious Canines to desensitize a dog.

Thank you! I've walked her for 15-20 mins. I can't tie her out, she will slip out of a collar or harness. I'm getting her an escape proof (fingers crossed) harness. It seems to be any pull of the leash she finds restrictive. That is when she'll immediately try to slip the collar/harness. I know she was attacked by another dog and has trauma because of that. So I'm careful to avoid other dogs while we're out walking, so she isn't distracted by them. I'll take a look at those pamphlets.

 

[chip18]

OK, well I tried asking questions first, which is new for me ... but clearly that did not work? So far "everyone in this dog's life has failed her." And you are currently working pretty hard, to be the next? If Hug's and kisses, solve dog issues? Then there would be, no need for Dog Trainers or Behaviorist?"

Having a dog with "issues," one does not understand ... is not a "crime?" It's what you do once you understand that there is an "issue," that matters. Those that "can," figure it out. And if they don't know ... "theses day's they can find those that do and just do that, if it makes sense to them.

Some people/owners only need to see what those that can do ... and that is more than enough for them, that is me. Other's need valuation from others? Before they can/will move forward?

But what does not work with a dog ... is doing the same thing over and over again and "Failing, in a new and different way!"

That is what you are doing as in well, the first "Harness did not work? But this one will be better? Well sure try that but a word of advise if you do. But a collar sung on her also and attach a D-Link or two to the Collar ... so that when she slips out of her "Escape Poof," Harness ... you will still have her!

Currently ... you are not walking your dog? She is walking you? If she is in front and pulling and putting "pressure on the leash? Then she is in charge of the walk's.

She won't go "Potty," on walks because as you and she are doing it ... she always feel's constrained? You can't say ... on walk's, go "potty," and let her feel free.

If you are not willing to "change what you are doing?" Then the best advise ... "is to hire a trainer, to teach you how to walk your dog!" Cause right now you are "messing up the first step?" In order to have "success with a rehab dog," you have to do "One Thing," Regardless of the "issue, have to know how to " Walk Your Dog!

And or if your not willing to change what you are doing or hire someone to help you, then return her before you do more damage. It can be that simple.

And that is why I quit "Fostering," it was to much "Heartbreak," for me and my wife. If I "fostered a dog," one of the first questions asked was "Can I, or my 13 old, walk this dog?" And the answer from me ... would be uh yeah? And that "Foster would be gone!" Well finding a "Foster," a new home was the point. But it was just to much for me ... so I stopped doing the foster thing, my bad?

But my point is ... if you can't walk a dog on a "Proper Structured Walk?" You will make next to no progress with anything else. And the lose dog ", BS," well every encounter has it's "variables?" But what you don't want is to have to deal with two dog's and not one!

It's another "topic," but ... what works with a 113lb Working Line GSD, works with a 10 lb Pen-Chi. Behind me dog ... I got this, it's not your problem! But if your dog does not understand there "position on a walk?" You can't do/expect that? Because they don't know ... who is in control? It's back to basics!

 

[valshingle]

OK, well I tried asking questions first, which is new for me ... but clearly that did not work? So far "everyone in this dog's life has failed her." And you are currently working pretty hard, to be the next? If Hug's and kisses, solve dog issues? Then there would be, no need for Dog Trainers or Behaviorist?"

Having a dog with "issues," one does not understand ... is not a "crime?" It's what you do once you understand that there is an "issue," that matters. Those that "can," figure it out. And if they don't know ... "theses day's they can find those that do and just do that, if it makes sense to them.

Some people/owners only need to see what those that can do ... and that is more than enough for them, that is me. Other's need valuation from others? Before they can/will move forward?

But what does not work with a dog ... is doing the same thing over and over again and "Failing, in a new and different way!"

That is what you are doing as in well, the first "Harness did not work? But this one will be better? Well sure try that but a word of advise if you do. But a collar sung on her also and attach a D-Link or two to the Collar ... so that when she slips out of her "Escape Poof," Harness ... you will still have her!

Currently ... you are not walking your dog? She is walking you? If she is in front and pulling and putting "pressure on the leash? Then she is in charge of the walk's.

She won't go "Potty," on walks because as you and she are doing it ... she always feel's constrained? You can't say ... on walk's, go "potty," and let her feel free.

If you are not willing to "change what you are doing?" Then the best advise ... "is to hire a trainer, to teach you how to walk your dog!" Cause right now you are "messing up the first step?" In order to have "success with a rehab dog," you have to do "One Thing," Regardless of the "issue, have to know how to " Walk Your Dog!

And or if your not willing to change what you are doing or hire someone to help you, then return her before you do more damage. It can be that simple.

And that is why I quit "Fostering," it was to much "Heartbreak," for me and my wife. If I "fostered a dog," one of the first questions asked was "Can I, or my 13 old, walk this dog?" And the answer from me ... would be uh yeah? And that "Foster would be gone!" Well finding a "Foster," a new home was the point. But it was just to much for me ... so I stopped doing the foster thing, my bad?

But my point is ... if you can't walk a dog on a "Proper Structured Walk?" You will make next to no progress with anything else. And the lose dog ", BS," well every encounter has it's "variables?" But what you don't want is to have to deal with two dog's and not one!

It's another "topic," but ... what works with a 113lb Working Line GSD, works with a 10 lb Pen-Chi. Behind me dog ... I got this, it's not your problem! But if your dog does not understand there "position on a walk?" You can't do/expect that? Because they don't know ... who is in control? It's back to basics!

WOW! How dare you!! You don't know me, you don't know this dog. Yet you feel you have the right to tell me I'm failing this dog???? You obviously did not read my entire first post when I stated that I live on 12.5 acres. The "structured walk" is in my field. There are no mailboxes or sidewalks or any other dogs except for my own, which are in the house when I walk Bailey, because they distract her or if they play too hard in front of her, make her shake in fear. If Bailey feels ANY tension on the lead, she walks right next to me in a heel position and will not even sniff the ground. So, our walks are on a loose lead in circles or figure eights as recommended by a animal behaviorist I consulted. Yes, i have consulted a canine behaviorist. If Bailey feels too much tension on either a collar or harness, she panics and tries to slip the collar/harness. I was asking for help on this forum, not to be judged by someone who doesn't have enough knowledge of the situation to have that right.

 

[Silly_Dog]

My 2-year old female won’t relieve herself on a leash, either. Nothing. She will only go in our fenced-in backyard, unleashed.
It’s been two years for us and she will just hold it, hold it, hold it until we get home.
Maybe get a temporary fence? We’ve used these fences to protect parts of our yard and our girl doesn’t jump over it. Lowe’s and Home Depot sell them and they are fairly inexpensive.
At least you know you’ll never need a poop bag when you’re out and about. https://www.lowes.com/pd/BOEN-3x25-ft-Plastic-Garden-Hex-Fence-Green/1001764896
And I feel your pain. We won’t rent a vacation home unless there is a fenced-in yard.
Your pup is so lucky to have you!
Good luck!

 

[valshingle]

My 2-year old female won’t relieve herself on a leash, either. Nothing. She will only go in our fenced-in backyard, unleashed.
It’s been two years for us and she will just hold it, hold it, hold it until we get home.
Maybe get a temporary fence? We’ve used these fences to protect parts of our yard and our girl doesn’t jump over it. Lowe’s and Home Depot sell them and they are fairly inexpensive.
At least you know you’ll never need a poop bag when you’re out and about. https://www.lowes.com/pd/BOEN-3x25-ft-Plastic-Garden-Hex-Fence-Green/1001764896
And I feel your pain. We won’t rent a vacation home unless there is a fenced-in yard.
Your pup is so lucky to have you!
Good luck!

Thank you! That's a great idea. That is something I can try. I just had her outside for 15 mins - nothing. As soon as we got in the house, she started to go. I said no and out we went again. And 15 mins later, still nothing. I am at my wit's end. I know she has to go. I'm sorry your girl does it too, but I'm glad I'm not the only one who has gone through this. Thank you for replying! 🥰

 

[chip18]

Well, I did read your first post. 12.5 acres and no fenced in back yard. And because of that, "No back yard, "most likely potty issues indoors?" Her recall , is ... questionable, to be generous. And that is not a crime ... but it needs to change.

I have tried a collar, a harness, a flexi-leash, praise, and treats, but she will not poop while on a leash. She barely pees while on a leash. I have spent 15-20 mins out with her, and she still won't go.

That many "tool's," on the same dog ... speaks to an "issue, with walk's?" But now you say she walks, well on a loose leash? Because, you have done (what you need to do... granted.) But you did not say ... "she walks on a loose leash in your post?" You said :

I have tried a collar, a harness, a flexi-leash, praise, and treats, but she will not poop while on a leash. She barely pees while on a leash. I have spent 15-20 mins out with her, and she still won't go

"That," does not sound like a dog that walks, well on a loose leash? But perhaps, I lack imagine? And now your looking for an "Escape, Proof Harness?"

I can only "assume," what that is about, because you have not said? But if it's for what I think? It's not gonna work, or perhaps, I'm wrong?? And I did not say "YOU," have failed her? But I did say, that thus far, everyone in this dog's life has "Failed," her. One has only failed a dog ... "When they give up!"

And well, you don't know me either? But lessons learned from Rocky 113 lbs of Human Aggressive (formly) Working line GSD, to be brief. Walk Your Dog, load her in the car and take her someplace else to walk her. ANd then see how she act's ... get her, outside her comfort zone and see what happens. Take Care

 

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I have the very opposite problem my male Boxer will not poop in our yard unless desperate he prefers to wait till we do our walks in the morning usually out in fields or trails! He’s to the point of ridiculous about it!

 

[Lindar51]

I like the idea of the temporary fence. I've used it for an area where I want the dogs to urinate so they don't keep killing the grass, lol works well. Some t-post and the flex fencing, along with zip ties. Worked for me.