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My vet has done all they know to do to help my 2-yr old female boxer. Her allergies are awful. What they did:
  • had me switch her food to Purina Pro Plan SAVOR Shredded Blend With Probiotics Adult Dry Dog Food
  • cut off all treats
  • have me bathing her with special shampoo, first 5 mins every other day; then 10 mins every other day
  • I gave her pills twice a day then once a day to kill a secondary infection (she is not on pills now)
  • they gave her an allergy shot (Edited to add the shot was Cytopoint) one time (it did not help)
  • told me to go to a doggy dermatologist (then coronavirus and self-quarantine started so I’ve not been able to go)
I’m not sure what to do next. Sometimes I wash her bedding in Tide free and gentle (sometimes I forget and use normal tide).

She spends a lot of time outside and eats grass. The vet says that eating grass doesn’t matter.

Sometimes there is a little rash in between her back legs which 1 bathe seems to make go away until it comes back. Any suggestions welcome. I really hurt for her. She has a “yeasty” smell. The bath doesn’t remove her smell for very long.

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Poor baby! My female boxer suffers from allergies as well. I get her a Cytopoint injection from the Vet it works really well if this is what your vet gave her it will take more than one shot to get an improvement I think my dog got two but the second one lasted her 3 months she had relief. Now I can get just one and it will last her 3 months all the time which usually gets her thru allergy time she has seasonal allergies. I tried apaquel for her as I had used it on a previous boxer and it upset her GI pretty badly with diarrhea so it didn't do that to my other dog but it did it to her. So I would suggest talking to your Vet about one of these options both work very well. They say most allergies are not food related some are but not all did you notice her skin getting red when the pollen started? My dog reacts to fall too with leaf mold so mold is a factor for her as well with both seasons. Both of those allergy meds are fairly expensive but it was worth it to me not to have my dog miserable. In fact I just got my girl a Cytopoint injection last week she stopped scratching doing a lot better. Her skin was very red and smelly too they get secondary infections from scratching. I hope this helps I would guess that shot your Vet gave was probably a steroid you should check and make sure.
 

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The yeasty smell?? I am pretty sure that would mean she need's to be fed "Probiotics" I am surprised your vet did not recommend such?? But hey at least he did not say ... "Feed her grain free kibble" ... another topic.

Here is sight with more information on "Yeast Infection's in dog's." They do sell a product and it's not one I have used?? But the info is good. And as far as now if you supplement her diet, adding a sugar free plain yogurt would be a good call.

Welcome Aboard and oh yeah we have a few other White Boxer's on here. :)
 

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Hello and thank you both for responding. The vet gave her Cytopoint so I will ask him to try at least one more time. Although being on lockdown it may be awhile before I can get to him. I may as well try a few more rounds of Cytopoint as drive 2 hours to the doggie dermatologist.

On the yeasty smell, the vet did give me 21 days of a probiotic supplement which I administered. They also had me switch to Purina Pro Plan SAVOR Shredded Blend With Probiotics Adult Dry Dog Food (allegedly has probiotics in it). I will look into the link you shared.

Kind regards to you both.
 

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Here is sight with more information on "Yeast Infection's in dog's." They do sell a product and it's not one I have used??
Actually @chip18 I don't see a link in your post... what am I missing?
 

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Our girl Scout also has allergies, with the red rash on her chest and chin. Our previous vet said it was environment-related. We spent the first year chasing done the issue. Trying different beds and shampoos with very little improvement.

When we finally figured out she was allergic to chicken it took at least a month of different food and treats before everything cleared up.

She still gets a slight rash once in a while after she eats a hibiscus flower, but so much better than before.

Good luck!
 

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Another thought, the Vet told me that the cytopoint would not help much if it was a food type allergy but she will need more than one to find out for sure. Some Vets are allowing you to wait outside while they come and take the dog do the shot and return her to the car a lot are doing that in our area now. That yeasty smell as I understand it is because of all the skin irritation and the scratching. Please try to avoid using grain free dog food I believe in my heart that's probably what killed my dogs.
 

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Actually @chip18 I don't see a link in your post... what am I missing?
Well that would be because I messed up ...my bad. :(

The original link was pretty good (I thought) but the theme is the same here.

And the "yogurt theme is pretty, "much the same." I see also "Apple Cider Vinegar??" Externally or internally. And while that could not hurt?? I would cut whatever the recommended amount to be consumed in half!! That stuff is a bit strong to consume directly ... as "confirmed" by both me and my allergy prone GSD! :)

And for the red rash ... they say you can use, Apple Cider Vinegar for that also?? Most likely that is gonna sting a bit ... I would imagine?? But what won't sting and my be kinda overkill and pricey ... but would be effective would be ... yet again today! Well Horse! :


I've used it in the past and found it to be extremely effective for both me and my dog's! And it's none toxic so it doesn't matter if she tries to lick it off, It works externally or internally. :)
 

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Thank you again everyone. I made an appt with the vet tomorrow morning (drive through vet service, what is next?) for cytopoint injection, refill on her special shampoo and a few other items like bravecto. He also switched her food to an IAMS allergy type food. He also is giving her a little prednisone temporarily to help with her discomfort. That is not long term. I feel for her. She's bright pink.
 

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With all that she should stop itching! Just be aware if he did not tell you the prednisone will make her pee a lot! My dog peed the bed when she first started taking it and it makes them so hungry too just be warned there are some side effects there they are not horrible but doable especially if she gets some relief. I hope she does.
 

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Roxie the Rock star, Chip18 gave you some great advice, I would try this: Get rid of all the kibble( problematic for yeast) does NOT matter what kibble all kibble! For one month Canned pumpkin,not the pie filling, fresh sweet potatoes, NO white potatoes! green beans, fish oil capsules, The protein should be 90/10 ground beef drain( do not get chuck chop it will hurt her( pancreas} or very lean sirloin tip or London broil. All meats should be cut to kibble size pieces.Also another simple protein source Canned mackerel just clean under running water you could split open and remove the bone you do not want to much calcium.
Just alternate the protein with the veggies.... Do not deviate.
Also DermaBenSs shampoo, and a good probiotic fortiflora or something your vet would recommend Also be mean! No treats at all.
 

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My previous boxer was allergic to sweet potatoes gave her two very bad bouts with pancreatitis even treats with sweet potatoes in them sent her to the ER. She had other seasonal allergies as well treating her with meds was the thing that helped her and once any kind of potato was eliminated from her diet no more digestive upsets.
 

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Well you must have a very special girl, That's a 1st for me with sweet potatoes, no solanine there to upset. As for Roxie if she follows directions she Will solve her problem...
 

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My vet has done all they know to do to help my 2-yr old female boxer. Her allergies are awful. What they did:
  • had me switch her food to Purina Pro Plan SAVOR Shredded Blend With Probiotics Adult Dry Dog Food
  • cut off all treats
  • have me bathing her with special shampoo, first 5 mins every other day; then 10 mins every other day
  • I gave her pills twice a day then once a day to kill a secondary infection (she is not on pills now)
  • they gave her an allergy shot (Edited to add the shot was Cytopoint) one time (it did not help)
  • told me to go to a doggy dermatologist (then coronavirus and self-quarantine started so I’ve not been able to go)
I’m not sure what to do next. Sometimes I wash her bedding in Tide free and gentle (sometimes I forget and use normal tide).

She spends a lot of time outside and eats grass. The vet says that eating grass doesn’t matter.

Sometimes there is a little rash in between her back legs which 1 bathe seems to make go away until it comes back. Any suggestions welcome. I really hurt for her. She has a “yeasty” smell. The bath doesn’t remove her smell for very long.

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My girl went through the same thing and after going to a vet dermatologist, we finally have her allergies under control! It's a long story to explain via chat but I'd be more than happy to share with you over the phone 281-235-8851 :)
 

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Roxie the Rock star, Chip18 gave you some great advice, I would try this: Get rid of all the kibble( problematic for yeast) does NOT matter what kibble all kibble! For one month Canned pumpkin,not the pie filling, fresh sweet potatoes, NO white potatoes! green beans, fish oil capsules, The protein should be 90/10 ground beef drain( do not get chuck chop it will hurt her( pancreas} or very lean sirloin tip or London broil. All meats should be cut to kibble size pieces.Also another simple protein source Canned mackerel just clean under running water you could split open and remove the bone you do not want to much calcium.
Just alternate the protein with the veggies.... Do not deviate.
Also DermaBenSs shampoo, and a good probiotic fortiflora or something your vet would recommend Also be mean! No treats at all.
Chip18's advice to remove kibble is spot on - but I would be careful of any red meat proteins (learn from my mistakes) - My girl had the same red skin, rashes, & yeasty smell + plus her white socks were brown from fur bronzing that occurs when their hair grows through allergy infected skin. Our vet dermatologist's first action was to begin a homemade vegetarian elimination diet to clear everything out of her system (about 6wks) and then slowly begin introducing/removing/substituting foods (kibble & homemade/whole foods).
By month 3 it was pretty easy to tell foods with an immediate reaction and eliminate them from her diet - but my girl also has some quirks in identifying food allergies that aren't readily apparent. She's always been able to eat foods without a noticeable reaction (upset stomach, turning bright red on her chest and tummy, etc.). But about six weeks after continuing to eat something that she's sensitive to, she'll begin throwing it up when she's playing/running. She's done this since a pup, and since she's always been a crazy-full speed-never say die-boxer, I attributed it to "playing so hard she pukes". It was only through the elimination diet that I realized she didn't puke even once when being fed the bare bones veggie diet. (And her puking is different from other boxers I've had that let you know they don't feel good - she'll puke as she's runs by without missing a step - or she'll stop for 5 seconds, hack up the food left in her stomach that isn't agreeing with her - and take off again at full speed - so I think it's easy to miss this as a food sensitivity flag).
Long story, longer - none of the commercially produced kibble worked - I've had both of my Boxer's on a homemade fish/veggies/fruit diet and they're THRIVING. I used BalanceIt.com to create the homemade diet - (it allows you to pick the foods you want to feed them out of 4 main groups, then it calculates the quantities/dog/size to feed them on a daily basis - & you can go back and modify as many times as you want without any charge).
Unfortunately, after 6 months of solving the food allergies, it was apparent that my Mia still had more than her share of environmental allergies contributing to her issues. Your pictures could be duplicates of how Mia looked & per our vetD - sores on her muzzle were indicative of prolonged food allergies (her muzzle sores were gone as soon as we figured out the food issues) - red skin and inflamed chin are more indicative of environmental allergies. So we did the skin allergy test & of course she was positive for 17 enviro allergens. So now she's about 9 months through the once a week allergy shot and it's really making a noticeable difference - hives are gone, paws & red skin have cleared up, chin has gotten better but not fully healed & she's a little pink as we've entered peak allergy season. Hope this info helps!
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The specialist in Dermatology told us that if we wanted to rule out diet issues we should feed a trial using Ultamino. Have not tried that, but the PPP sensitive skin food has not made a difference. The Apoquel has not really worked. Poor girl is chewing on her feet, and they get raw looking. She also has increased infections in her ears that require vet treatment. I think that starts with yeast. I'm ready to try the Cytopoint injections now. I've recently used Burt's Bees hydrating shampoo, and it's seemed to stop the itching for at least awhile. It doesn't contain Colorants, Sulfates or added Fragrances. It's pH balanced. Thanks for the recommendations.
 

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Poor girl is chewing on her feet, and they get raw looking.
Not gonna try and address the whole of what's going on with her. But just to the raw looking feet?? I swear I have no affiliation. I'm just a happy customer. ... I would use "Well Horse," on her feet. It's an all natural antibotic and non toxic it coats like a liquid bandage and even if she lick's it off it still work's!
 

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Hello everyone, with all the changes with covid19 I have not been back until now. I just read through all these very informative and helpful updates. My boxer (Trudy.... Roxie passed away) is looking so much better after the rx shampoo that I leave on her for 15 mins at a time and consistent but decrementing dosages of steroids. She has had her 2nd cytopoint injection and whoever said it took more than 1 shot was right. The 2nd seems to be helping. She is due for her next cytopoint injection and is barely pink. I wish there were no pink but alas there is a small amount. She's almost off steroids entirely. Overall just a huge wonderful improvement. That being said, there is enormous wisdom in this post and I intend to review it all again and take the actions I think will help. I may even show it to my vet. Many thanks to all of you for taking the time to post your thoughts. It means a lot to me!
 
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