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Hey everyone, im looking to become an owner of a boxer and i have been looking around for breeders. I have emailed KG boxers to see if and when they will have puppyies available and im waiting for a response, iv'e also come across tanoak.

I will be a first time owner of a boxer and ive read from a 2 people that their boxers from tanoak have been quite a challenge. I understand that boxers are a challenge, like any dog would be, but they kind of made it seem like it was more challenging that normal.

anyways if anyone could give me some insight on this breeder would be greatly appreciated. Also if they know of some good breeders i should have a look at in ontario (im just 20 mins north of toronto). im hoping to get a pup some time next month but ofcourse i am willing to wait longer to get a good and healthy pup from a good breeder.

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Copy/pasting some general information I wrote in another thread:

With any breeder, regardless of bloodline, you want to be sure they're testing for genetic issues in the breed (spondylosis is a bigger concern on the Continent than here, so that's something to consider with those dogs), they're obtaining objective evaluations of their dogs for conformance to the breed standard in structure and temperament, they're committed to the puppies they produce for life, and if they sell a dog as a "prospect" -- be it show, work, performance, or sport -- they're actually participating in that activity with their own dogs.
 

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My male is from tanaok. I wouldn't say that all boxers from Tanoak are a challenge. Not every dog is the same or has the same level of dominance. Boxers in general are a very challenging breed to raise from puppy hood as are most bully breeds because they are very head strong, stubborn and dominant. I have no health issues with my dog at all although he is very dominant. He is a sweat heart and is gentle enough to play with my 1 yearold. I know 7 other people that have boxers from Tanoak and they do not have any health issues either and are very nice looking large (73-80lb) boxers that confirm to the FCI and CKC standard. They provide you with contract with health guarantee, a 6th generation pedigree, ckc certificate, health records and are from champion lines. Helga and Dieter have always answered any questions that I ask of them and are always willing to talk about their boxers or give me guidance.
 

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I in the same situation that MarkB is in. I'm looking for feedback on Tanoak and or KG breeders, can anyone help? This will be my first Boxer but I have had plenty of experience raising large dogs (Rottweiler & German Shepherds). Thanks in advance.

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I in the same situation that MarkB is in. I'm looking for feedback on Tanoak and or KG breeders, can anyone help? This will be my first Boxer but I have had plenty of experience raising large dogs (Rottweiler & German Shepherds). Thanks in advance.

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Hi Kate, I just got a puppy on saturday from Bedford Kennels

I haven't even had my boy for a week now and he is learning very fast, he is so sweet, we call him the cuddle monster.

Cassidy (breeder) is great!, im very happy I purchased a puppy from her. She is very helpful and nice. She absolutely loves her dogs and wants nothing but the best for them. She has 3 Adult/teenage boxers who were very sweet and playful when I went to her place to pick up my pup. She has kids and her boxers looked very loving towards them, playing with them almost the whole time I was there. She has 5 pups left, if you are serious about getting a pup, I would go to her. The sire and dam are also health tester.

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I have a five month old boxer form tanoak and she has health issues but not genetically based. I can get get my money back if i give back puppy. That is the contract but you fall in love with the pup and she is a sweet puppy and very calm, most of the time. How can you??? good luck with your choice.
 

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Hi Kate, even though the original post is from June, I thought I'd reply to your post from yesterday anyway, since I visited Tanoak in September 2011 when I was looking for a puppy. I'm not sure if you've physically been to their facility yet, but all I can say is that when I went, it was a bad scene.

As a business owner myself, I hate to 'bad mouth' someone on the internet, but I'm also a boxer owner, so my observations from the visit were as follows: several (10 or more?) adult dogs, each in crate, inside the house with no ac on a very very hot day. Every single dog was panting. Three or four litters of puppies in kiddie pools, of varying ages, in livingroom. The 7 week old litter we were shown had 5 puppies, three of which were significantly smaller than the other two, with ribs, hip, and spine bones showing. When my husband asked which dogs were the parents of the litter, Helga waved at the adult dogs do indicate the dad was 'over there' and said the mom wasn't there. I don't even know what they were charging for the puppies, I didn't stay long enough to ask.

I can't help you with info on KG boxers, but we ended up getting our puppy from Biancales Boxers near Hamilton. His dad is imported from Europe, and his mom was bred by other great Ontario breeder, Kaco Boxers. He is 10 weeks old now, and a typical crazy boxer puppy, but we're confident he's from health tested lines and we know he's going to be very handsome boxer. I guess my point is you should invest the time to visit the breeder you are considering, because the difference between the good and not so good breeders is obvious when you are there in person.
 

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Hi Kate, even though the original post is from June, I thought I'd reply to your post from yesterday anyway, since I visited Tanoak in September 2011 when I was looking for a puppy. I'm not sure if you've physically been to their facility yet, but all I can say is that when I went, it was a bad scene.

As a business owner myself, I hate to 'bad mouth' someone on the internet, but I'm also a boxer owner, so my observations from the visit were as follows: several (10 or more?) adult dogs, each in crate, inside the house with no ac on a very very hot day. Every single dog was panting. Three or four litters of puppies in kiddie pools, of varying ages, in livingroom. The 7 week old litter we were shown had 5 puppies, three of which were significantly smaller than the other two, with ribs, hip, and spine bones showing. When my husband asked which dogs were the parents of the litter, Helga waved at the adult dogs do indicate the dad was 'over there' and said the mom wasn't there. I don't even know what they were charging for the puppies, I didn't stay long enough to ask.

I can't help you with info on KG boxers, but we ended up getting our puppy from Biancales Boxers near Hamilton. His dad is imported from Europe, and his mom was bred by other great Ontario breeder, Kaco Boxers. He is 10 weeks old now, and a typical crazy boxer puppy, but we're confident he's from health tested lines and we know he's going to be very handsome boxer. I guess my point is you should invest the time to visit the breeder you are considering, because the difference between the good and not so good breeders is obvious when you are there in person.

Very well said :)

Its nice to see people actuallt giving an honest opinion and be professional about it.
 

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Thanks to everyone for your advice, especially MarkB & CaptainJack. I still haven't got my boxer yet but based on conversations with different breeders and your advice I'm leaning towards Kaco Boxers. Kari (breeder) was amazing and her dogs were so happy and playful. She is breeding with Biancales boxers and producing a handsome line of European boxers.

Thanks again!
 

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LOL -- went to copy/paste some general advice and realized I'd posted it on this thread already! It's worth repeating, though. :)

With any breeder, regardless of bloodline, you want to be sure they're testing for genetic issues in the breed (spondylosis is a bigger concern on the Continent than here, so that's something to consider with those dogs), they're obtaining objective evaluations of their dogs for conformance to the breed standard in structure and temperament, they're committed to the puppies they produce for life, and if they sell a dog as a "prospect" -- be it show, work, performance, or sport -- they're actually participating in that activity with their own dogs.
As well, we've seen more and more instances of "Euro" breeders who are capitalizing on the novelty of imported dogs (or, sometimes, foreign-sounding names!) and charging fees based on the percent of "Euro" blood, which of course has nothing whatsoever to do with the quality of the dog or the ethics of the breeder. Charlatans will always try to profit from the latest trend, and "Euro" Boxers (and "black" Boxers) are the current favorites. In many cases you can get a well-bred puppy with European bloodlines (including that "other" part of Europe, the UK ;) ), out of health tested parents from a responsible breeder who does not squawk about their "Euro" dogs but rather focuses on creating a dog that will meet the breed standard in any country, for 1/2 or less the price from a non-testing, non-showing, non-working "Euro" breeder whose dogs have never actually set foot in the performance ring yet who charges inflated fees for "Schutzhund/working prospects".
 

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I am not sure this answer the question of tanoak being good breeders as I have a tanoak puppy and within ten days she had health issues... from being told not to go to vet with her issues to being told we caused her issues to being told we were experimenting on the puppy by getting her medical treatment to finally getting our money refunded and given a somewhat apology,, and fore informing them that one of her health issues is probably genetic and having them breed the sire again even knowing this has a possible genetic base.. I would in all honesty say I will never get a puppy from Tanoak again... That being said I do Love Bella and am glad she is mine because I would hate to know where she would have been without us....
 

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I purchased a puppy from Tanoak 4 months ago, and my experience with
Them has been fantastic. They really make sure
You know what you're in for when you get a boxer, and are very knowledgeable on the subject. My 5 month old boxer is in excellent health and is perfect
In every way. I highly recommend them.
 
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