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yesterday for a check up and his last round of puppy shots.  He's 16 weeks and weighs in at 30.4 lbs.  He's getting big.  I also have a question.  I asked this before but I didn't get too many responses.  Has anyone's dogs had the Lyme's vaccination?  We do get lots of ticks around here and they seem to be really bad right now.  Just wondering if it's something my babies should get.  Oh, and I also made an appointment to get him nuetered and microchipped on the 23rd.  He's doing great!
 

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I did not do the lyme vaccine for either of my pups, nor lepto.  But, I personally feel the fewer vaccines the better.
 

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Thats a good question. I was told it wasnt nessecary since we live in the city. We go for walks around the neighborhood & the Dog Park.
All but around 5-10 percent of dogs appeared to contract it and then fight it off and be fine. Clinical observation put this number higher, more like 15-25 percent, but still, most antibody-positive dogs did not show signs of disease. For this reason, most vets, including specialists, did not recommend "treating a titer." They reserved treatment for dogs showing clinical signs of the disease...
Go to this site: http://www.caberfeidh.com/Lyme.htm
Unfortunately, there is no real nexus between the seriousness of a disease and the effectiveness or safety of a vaccine for that disease. In my opinion, the Lyme vaccine does not actually provide enough benefit to outweigh its substantial risks, despite the seriousness of canine Lyme Disease.

The Lyme vaccine can cause an untreatable form of Lyme disease and, like all bacterial diseases, provides short term immunity. It is not recommended at any of the vet schools in the United States. The human Lyme vaccine was withdrawn from the market. For all the reasons, I think that it's best avoided. But I have one more, very compelling reason.

There are other tick borne diseases that are much more serious than Lyme, for which we have no vaccines. So even if a very safe and effective Lyme vaccine were developed for dogs, having your dog vaccinated for Lyme isn't going to lessen the need for tick prevention. So it's hard to make the risk vs. benefit analysis for Lyme vaccination come out on the benefit side, no matter how you work the math.
 

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I work at a veterinary hospital as a technician and I vaccinate my dogs for Lyme, becasue we are around a lot of Ticks.  I reccommend the vaccine to clients if they live in those areas or take their dogs to those places.  I always say its better to be safe than sorry.
 

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We don't do a vaccine.  We use that topical flea and tick treatment on a monthly basis; it's supposed to prevent lyme disease carrying ticks.
Hmmm . . . I wonder how the medicine knows which ticks have lyme disease? :wink:  :lol:
 

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Brodi had his lyme shot. Ticks are awful around here this year! Chloe is due for her shots this month and we have decided to go the titer route.
 

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It's definitely a decision you have to make..We do have some ticks, but I really don't want to go that route..I've got mine on K9 advantix and it worked really well last summer, so I think I will just stick with that...But if you are in a heavy tick area and your babies get out in the woods, it may not be a bad idea
 

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Kiah was given a lyme shot before I got her.  I don't think I will get her another as she is on K9 Advantix and I haven't seen a tick on her yet.  We do have a lot of ticks in this area, last year I found several that were dead so I am guessing they came off Kiah.  I got several on me when walking her through a wooded area we call the green belt and that is probably where they got on Kiah.
 

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Is there a con to getting the shot verses using the K9?..is it the expense or is it in general a side effect thing?..I will be getting shots soon and want to know what is ebst beforehand...thanks
 

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Trish..........You probably will never get a real straight response to this question because people have their own beliefs on vaccination and over vaccination.....But, the main thing is to gather the info and talk to your vet in your area on what they suggest.....You will certainly hear that Lyme is not one of the core vaccinations, so therefore it is a personal choice............

One thing to remember is that blood tests can be done to deterime immunity......it can also differentiate between immunity derived from natural exposure and immunity derived from any previous vaccination............

To my knowledge there are now four approved Lyme vaccines used in dogs and the one thing to keep in mind like with all vaccines in animal and human medicine.........none of them are 100% effective and protective against diseases........... As with any vaccine there are a number of things that can impact individual responses to being vaccinated..... So, you must think of the Lyme vaccine as a tool to help decrease your dog's chances of contracting it......This is where the better safe then sorry logic comes into play.....Same way I feel about the Lepto vaccine...it may not cover every strain, but it certainly covers some.....

AZSun 2006...........The first thing to help in the prevention of Lyme Disease is to keep the ticks to a minimum.....This can be done by treating your yard area with a effective insecticide....and also using products like K-9 Advantixx, as the others have mentioned using......I dont think it really replaces the vaccine, but it is certainly better then doing nothing for ticks if you are in a heavy tick area.....

It all depends on where you live.....most ticks I see are American Dog Ticks and they dont carry lyme disease.....for those with Deer Ticks...you have to watch out!  They also have to be attached to the animal for 24 hours and the "flea/tick preventatives keep them from living that long, so I think that it makes a good aid in prevention...

Here is a map showing the reported cases from I think 00-07 and if you fall in the "green" areas I think looking into Lyme vaccine is a good choice.....In the end, it is your choice though :)


http://www.preventlymedisease.com/media/map.pdf
 

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Definitley using monthly flea and tick prevention will help.  I agree with SharonL.
 

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You can use it on puppies 7 weeks and older.  I like using K9 Advantix its a great product.
 

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AzSun2006\";p=\"120374 said:
Is the K9Advantixx safe for puppies as well?
Sure....have you seen the commercial for it?  It has all the little puppies singing...there aint no bugs on me....there might be bugs on some of you mugs, but there aint no bugs on me :)  hahaha...it is for pups 7 weeks and older........
 

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I like that it says it repels and not just kills.
 

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ha..ok..I have seen that commercial..cute!!..thanks..now is this only available from the vet or at like petsmarts?
 

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It is available at vets and Petsmart. But, Bayer will not back their product if it sold at petstores or online, because it is stored in warehouses, and the temp. is not regulated. When you buy it at your vet there is less product sitting around on shelves for long periods of time and the temp. is usually regulated.  There is also alot of "FAKES" on the shelves and online.  Be careful where you buy it.
 
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