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I always meant to add the part that will follow but got off on a tangent, so sorry all. :(

So pretty much tens of thousands of words, later I am back on it! And it turns out that it is a good thing I waited! I found more info.

One of the most important elements of the topic of this thread is to "build a bond of trust between you and your dog." I thought I had one with "Rocky" but in truth "nope" it was not there!

Most likely I had his respect??? He never came "up leash on me" so I'll assume so. But he did not trust me, no Bond of trust between us. And without that when, "issues" arise dogs are much more difficult to deal with.

I have to "speculate" that this situation came about "because" I had three dogs and because I had easy access to open space. Exercise was easy and if you have a Boxer leading the way, dogs can get plenty of exercise trying to keep up! :)

But what I did not realize was that I had not built the "Bond" with "Rocky" I spent very little time "Walking" one on one with him. Lack of doing that ... was ultimately, to have "Blow Back!"

I actually did "finally" build that "Bond" entirely by "accident" "because" of his Human Aggression "issues." To fix him I had to expose him to people, and to do that I had to "Walk my dog." I used a muzzle on him for a bit and that helped both he and I relax.

"We" learned what to expect from each other! And that was the "missing" element in our relationship! You don't have to have a difficult dog for "walks" to be beneficial to you and your dog, a dog does not need "you" to "exercise" if you have the space. But a dog does need you to walk. :)

That is the secret of "Leadership."

I found my solution here and all I took away was "well if I keep people out of his "then he can't bite anyone ...good enough! All I did to solve my problems was "walk my dog." Show him what I want as tend to say.

Well yeah and a muzzle briefly. But that was "situation specific. :)

Leerburg | Who Pets Your Puppy or Dog

And today I found this:

Building a Relationship with Your Dog is the Key to Success!

Seems I had stumbled onto "something" ... who knew?? :)

And for those that don't know how it turned out and why I am so sold on "Who Pets ...." this happened:
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Hmm ... yet another thread I need to update. After many years of well giving advise and searching for an understanding of what and how I had done with my formerly, H/A OS Wl GSD. I solved his people issues seemingly ... without much effort on my part?? He never once got a single correction for any untoward "aggression towards a single person!" A PO only approach as it were. I made good choices for him ... "No sorry, you can't pet my dog!" And I did this ... :

It took me "literally" about eight years to actually understate ... what I'd already done! Sometimes KISS, is hard to comprehend but ... it is a thing! And the secret to my success just to be clear ... was, I walked my dog. :)
 

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Not the exact post I was looking for but I know you have look for other police "working boxer" Seems there are 2 news one.
https://www.facebook.com/laxso/photos/a.202423373150748.48958.187157274677358/1702962483096822/?type=3&theater
LOL ... two more?? Well we are not really setting the LE K9, world on fire ... but credit where credit is due! :)

I don't know whee La Cross County is??? But I'm gonna guess back East??? Course I'm in NV so everywhere is "back East." :)

There seems to be a very distinct regional component to working K9 Boxers??? They all (the few) seem to be back East, what's up with that??? And they all seem to be Euro's???

I messed up I suppose?? Many,many,many years ago when I started my hunt for LE K9 Boxers, I was looking for American Line Boxers doing that job. And I had found "ONE!" But upon further pursuit ... I found that dog had been retired???

So I abandoned, that pursuit, my bad and from there I found Cliff. And from there I found Boxers Von Bachbett and from there the working LE K9 Boxers all seem to be (Euro) and a regional thing??? None seem to be out West ... still???

My Struddell (100%) all American was either quite exceptional or I'm that good??? And in as much as she was only my 4th dog, and I'd changed nothing I did ... it could not have been me?? And she flat out ... no BS, Luv'd people! She had no Idea ... what that "Aloof" at first ... was about???

She left me ill, equipped to deal with my first WL GSD??? He liked uh "NO One!" I had to work like a "Dog" no pun intend to get "Rocky" (Over Size Working line GSD" to "Aloof" instead of outright hostility! Rocky was :"always" in place when company came over! He was a lifetime of "awareness!" Struddell ... not so much! She just never did that Aloof" thing period to any degree? People were the next best thing to "baked bread!"

That's what I expect from my Boxers. But time changes and in NV, I see more Euro /American Boxers?? And they are a bit different?? They at least "briefly" do the "Aloof" ... thing because you know ... I don't know you?? But they seem to get over it quite quickly, then they are "what I expect from a Boxer??"

My GSD ...never did that?? It was months if not years before I trusted him to be left alone with "two people!" And my wife ... let her engage freely with her daughter because she felt I was to "anal" after a few years! Worked out fine. :)

Her daughter lived out of state so he only saw her infrequently ... in my defense. At any rate ... in my defense ... I'm not looking for a WL GSD Experience" in a Boxer suit????

I "expect" my next Boxer to like people, unless they prove they are not to be trusted???? And for the record ... I'm gonna add the "brachycephalic thing???" LOL ... yesss, I know what they say. :)

But in the real world ... my Struddell with her skinny build and longer narrow muzzle ... could chase Jack Rabbits all day long in the high heat of the NV Desert, I never gave it a second thought???

Personally ... I believe there is something there in heat tolerance, that the American Lines could add?? But I'm not into the LE K9 or Sport Dog or Breeder world?? I'm just a pet person but I know what I want. And happy unbridled "Goofiness" seem to be key for me??? :clap:

So the full Euro's as pet's, (it's a legit job in my view) I just don't know???
 
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