Ok i have another question guys/gals. I have recently been contemplating getting a stake and lead line to work with the dogs a little bit more with more room and freedom. That way i dont have ahold of the leash and can work on recall and things with my girls, but i have the security of knowing they cant run off. I havent been real comfotable with stakes/lead lines becuase of all the bad people out there who leave their poor animals tied up, but i have come to the conclusion that my backyard isnt big enough (i live in a townhome) to really work with the girls. They would never be left on the lead for ANY period of time. They would only acutally be on it during training. Does or has anyone ever used this to help with training. It is hard training the girls by myself.