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So Ziva has had hives for several weeks now and both her regular vet & the allergy/dermatology specialist agreed that she needed to do a food elimination trial before we can allergy test her. So for three months she is allowed to eat nothing except for her prescription dog food, apples, carrots & bananas.

In order to be able to still give her treats of some sort I have been grinding up her food in a blender & mixing it with grated carrot, diced apple and some water. I then use a bone shaped cookie cutter to shape the "dog food dough" into bones of various size & bake them till they're crispy. She loves them!

I've also now begun making her baked apple & banana slices, which she also seems to really enjoy.

I saw a post about removing the core of an apple, stuffing the empty center with peanut butter, yogurt or bananas & freezing it. Definitely going to be trying that!

Anyone have any other ideas? I'm trying to keep her interested enough to work on training stuff (she's only a year old so still have plenty to work on!) in addition to wanting to have something to keep her busy for more than half a second. To say I miss being able to give her a busy bone, whimsy or some other long lasting treat would be an understatement, lol. Interesting training treats are equally missed.
 

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I would just use her kibble as training type treats. I would look into getting a treat dispensing toy and feed her her daily food allowance with that toy.
 

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I've been using her kibble & broken off pieces of the treats I've been making from her kibble. Unfortunately, though, her food is a very low value treat for her. So if we're in the midst of a lot of distractions the food does nothing for her. It works for our usual walks, basic obedience sessions, etc, but that's about it. And while I don't give her her entire meal in them, I do have a few treat dispensing toys, which she gets parts of her meal in. She has them down to a science, so it doesn't take her long lol. I will also "hide" her treats for her, which keeps her busy for a minute or two.
 

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I know what you mean. I would go so much as broiling a cheap steak and cutting it up to give for obedience classes only. But I noticed he was getting diarrhea. We keep giving them the treats during class. That's a good idea about giving then their own food


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You can dehydrate apples, bananas (not sure about carrots) in a food dehydrator for crispy treats.
 

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Instead of using food have you tried a special toy and praise instead?
Yes, but again this only works for our usual walks, basic obedience sessions, etc. In the midst of high distractions, not so much. She's always been a little odd about verbal praise. From day one she was the only puppy I've ever worked with who didn't get excited when told what a good girl she is. Usually you can use a happy, excited tone of voice & say "good girl!" to a pup and they get all excited because you're excited. As a young pup she never did that. She has now picked it up, and at this point that is all she gets for basic behaviors in the house. In low distraction areas she's good with verbal praise or just a piece of kibble, but I'm looking for something to substitute for those high value rewards she would get in high distraction areas or when working on new behaviors & would also love to find something that can keep her busy for more than a minute or two.

I know what you mean. I would go so much as broiling a cheap steak and cutting it up to give for obedience classes only. But I noticed he was getting diarrhea. We keep giving them the treats during class. That's a good idea about giving then their own food
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If the steak is giving him diarrhea and you need a high value reward for training classes try other meats. Boiled chicken is usually easy on their stomachs. You could also try cutting up pieces of a natural balance food roll. Using their kibble as a reward is great if you have a dog who loves their kibble or is super food motivated. Unfortunately for me my Ziva has never been THAT into food, which is why not having a high value reward is making me a little crazy, lol.

You can dehydrate apples, bananas (not sure about carrots) in a food dehydrator for crispy treats.
Baking them seems to do the same thing, but if it turns out that her hives are due to a food allergy and this current diet becomes a permanent thing I do think I'll be getting a dehydrator. Thanks! :)
 

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Max likes raw baby carrots, I ran out one time and tried cutting a regular carrot into bite sized pieces, he didn't like those, I don't know how he knew the difference.
 

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Probably because carrots and baby carrots are slightly different, lol. I don't eat either one but am told they don't taste quite the same. Ziva actually likes both, but she picks and chooses when she is in the mood for them. Some days she is super excited to be handed a big carrot to go off and chew, other days when I offer her one she either looks highly offended or will carry it into the living room, take a bite or two and then pretend it no longer exists. Same with baby carrots. Some days you can't possibly give her enough of them, others she acts as if you're crazy to even have offered them. Such a little brat, lol. ;-)
 

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I know one thing my vet said to substitute regular treats cause my girl was gaining weight was cucumber. A whole cucumber. I just cut off one end so she can smell it and when she is ready she eats it. Even the skin. she often gets excited when she sees me bring it. I get one every couple weeks so she doesn't get tired of them.
 

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We had a strict novel protein diet, but the vet/nutritionist let us use pieces of white bread to put pills in, and pieces of plain bagels as treats. Mine wouldn't eat any veggies, but rarely a banana. I'd see what carbs are in the prescription diet. We also could give spaghetti pasta, and macaroni noodles. For some reason he thought those were as good as a liver treat.
 

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Hi there. I've gone through this allergy thing. It's certainly a challenge. I buy a piece of steak or pork and cook it and cut it up for snacks. My dog has a lot of allergy and sensitivities to food. Maybe whatever protein is in the food your vet has prescribe you can buy that and use it for treats. They love meat! Good luck with your baby.
 
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