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Old 11-20-2019, 05:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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HI EVERYONE!

Well it has been a long time since I have been on this page. Our last boxer passed 3 years ago and we just decided to get another one this summer. Well she is 6 months old and is a very bad dog. She chews on all of my furniture and anything else she can get her hands on.

We have tried to keep her in the crate while we are gone but she has not responded to it well. We only leave her for 1-2 hours at a time. We have a divider in the crate and yet has poop accidents all the time. We only give her enough space to sit down. it became too much for us to clean up so we decided to leave her in the house. She did good for a few weeks. never touched anything and never had accidents. Now she is destroying my house. I tried to buy the bitter spray. I dont want to be a prisoner in our own home.

Any suggestions on how we can fix this is much appreciated.

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Old 11-20-2019, 06:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Uh Oh, did you get her as a puppy and she is six months old now??? Or is she a six a 6 month old rescue??

Cuz, if she was a puppy then for the most part it's what you did ... with the "wrong pup." If she is rescue ... your working with someone else's mistakes.

I only ask out of curiosity?? Cuz you know if it was a puppy, we all know exactly what you did. And "most" of the time with "most" pup's but it works out fine. But "sometimes" not so much??? In "either" case .... take a step back and try and "Chill," we got your back! Cuz as they say ... "All problems, begin at home."

Oh and 1 to 2 hours ... is nothing! She is just being a "tool," the first step in any case, would be start to feed her in her "Crate" only! But it sounds like she is just bored and it's "Separation Anxiety" so if you did get her as a puppy??? The next question would be, was she ever left home alone, ever during that time???
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Old 11-21-2019, 07:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I can only speak to my own experiences, but there is a wealth of knowledge on here. Try searching for "chewing". I'm on my 2nd boxer (the Duke is ~8 months now) and I still will not leave him to free roam - even just to go to the gym 1 floor down. He has chewed furniture, eaten coasters, pens, etc...all when I have left him alone. He is, however, very much crate trained and can be left much longer than 1-2 hours.He also will not chew anything when I'm around. I did use the bitter spray, with some success, but mostly I encourage him to play and especially chew with his toys. He has a few great chew toys and those hard cheese bones will keep his attention for a long time. Going on experience with my past boxer, slowly I will trust him to free roam more and more as he gets past the 1-year mark. If I were going to leave him out though, I'd probably make sure he was dead tired. Before crating him, try tiring him out and then give him the hard cheese bone in the crate when you go out. Try feeding him in there too - dogs usually won't go the bathroom where they eat/are used to eating. Oh, and make sure you walk the heck out of him before you leave him for any length of time in his crate...especially at first. Should cut down on accidents.

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Old 11-21-2019, 08:31 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Bellbell...Go to this site https://www.susangarrett.com/crate-games-online/

She has some useful advise on training to the crate. Its proven and works but it does take time. My guess is you let her out of her crate too soon and she probably has some separation anxiety on top, which is why you had a problem crate training in the first place. Our boxer did not get res roam of the house until he was almost 2 although he really was trust worthy at that point but I always knew he and my house were safe. Now he just chills wherever he please's. Large Himalayan yak bones are very good at keeping her busy b ut I always supervise as when they get smaller they become a choking hazard. You can use them as a special treat for use in crate only when you are there but going about your business, that way you can check on her. At 6 months she is still a handful and her teeth hasn't permanently set into her jawbone, hense she will still chew. Try redirecting her to a toy, rope or bone. I also like the Dentley stuffed femur bones. Continue spraying the bitter apple on your stuff . You can also tether her to you when you are home teaching her limits. She should easily be able to stay in a crate 4 hours by now and thru the night. It sounds like she is in charge right now but you can fix it.
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Not going to be much help because my guy really didn't chew on anything, except he occasionally tried to bite the handle for a recliner. One day he was being a big time pain in the butt with trying to get to it, so I finally decided, ok I'll make you stop. Took a drop of hot sauce and put it on the handle, he goes over and sniffs it licks it clean and looks at me with the, can I have more look. LOL talk about back firing.

You are going to have to get her crate trained though. I would say thats the priority because you can't leave her unsupervised and if you did that could turn into a really bad situation.
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. Took a drop of hot sauce and put it on the handle, he goes over and sniffs it licks it clean and looks at me with the, can I have more look. LOL talk about back firing.
LOL yeah the "Hot Sauce" bit?? That has to be an "Urban Legend" cuz it never seems to work???

Cuz it never seems to work?? My first dog Gunther (Band Dawg) would eat cat crap from the litter Boxes!! If I did not clean it first. So I tried "Hot Sauce???" Yeah that did not work at all! The first time I tried it ... he ate "Cat Crap," with more gusto as in "WOW Cajun flavored Cat Crap, delicious!!
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Elk antlers have worked wonders for my two Staffordshire mixes and seems to be working well with my newly acquired 8 mo old Boxer. Something to chew on while cutting those teeth. They still like chewing on them 15 min or so a day, even at 5, 2, and now 8 months.

I have always made a point to take out (and accompany) all of them through their house training. None are allowed to roam unless we’re home, but at night, only the puppy is crated - though the 5 year old sleeps in his crate like it’s a bed (4” memory foam).

If we both need to go somewhere over 3-4 hours, they go to doggy daycare.

There are lots of great instructions out there for house training. I’ve found that when I reward them as puppies as soon as they relieve themselves where I want them too, they pick it up pretty quickly. It does sound like separation anxiety may be a factor and that’s a bit harder to train out. If you have a reliable dog trainer in your area, you might consult with them.

Good luck! Generally speaking, there are no bad dogs...just lack of training!
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LOL yeah the "Hot Sauce" bit?? That has to be an "Urban Legend" cuz it never seems to work???

Cuz it never seems to work?? My first dog Gunther (Band Dawg) would eat cat crap from the litter Boxes!! If I did not clean it first. So I tried "Hot Sauce???" Yeah that did not work at all! The first time I tried it ... he ate "Cat Crap," with more gusto as in "WOW Cajun flavored Cat Crap, delicious!!
Lol. It was the only thing I had that I figured he might not like the taste. I was wrong. All in all though, he was great about not chewing anything.
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Elk antlers have worked wonders for my two Staffordshire mixes and seems to be working well with my newly acquired 8 mo old Boxer. Something to chew on while cutting those teeth. They still like chewing on them 15 min or so a day, even at 5, 2, and now 8 months.
Elk Antlers tend to be very hard! On Germanshepardforum a few dogs had broken teeth from those things!

With Struddell (Avatar) I gave her cow bones (leg's or knuckles) and they would last for weeks. With or new APBT/Boxer ... she had exactly one leg bone, which she promptly broke in half and started to turn the rest into "Shards??" So no more leg bones! The knuckles hold up better which she seems to break apart and eventual turn to "gnaws" in half and turns those to shards! But it takes longer to accomplish with those.

And while there is certainly nothing wrong with "Hiring a trainer," that seems a bit "extreme" for a six month old puppy??? But if it's a choicer between that or "re-homing the puppy??" Then sure "Hire a Trainer" would be a better option. But ... the Devil is in the details. As in "Hire who exactly???"

It's a loaded question actually, as I already the answer. And the first "Gentle Paws" Positive Only Trainer, would be the answer nine times out of ten.

A private trainer and an hour a day for most likely ... "Two Weeks??" Is kinda pricey for that??? I tend to think??? If that is the route they want to take ... just go with "Lindar's" link cuz it would be pretty much the same thing. And a lot less expensive to "DIY."

There is pretty much nothing "unusual" about this puppy??? Pretty much "par for the course" and typifies my only reluctance in recommending Boxers, to anyone. IE ... to quote me, "they can be a pretty hair pulling experience for some owners." And that is kinda where the OP is.

Right now there are no rules, structure or "CONSEQUENCES" for the puppy's ... ill behavior, in the Crate. A "Balanced Trainer" could fix this "crap behavior" right quick. IE they "Reward good behavior and correct/punish bad behavior," in the Crate. Cuz right now what the puppy has learned is "if I throw a big enough fit, I'll be outta here in short order!" It works every time??

But hey I am better at De-Crate Training then I am at, continuing Crate Training?? And I will grant that did come back to bite me in the butt, with my first Wl GSD?? That lack of discipline/structure was a uh ...mistake. But it worked out fine in the long run ... stitches notwithstanding.
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That’s why I mentioned consult vs hire. I wouldn’t “hire” one. I’ve been through two obedience classes and an agility 1 with my various dogs, and wouldn’t hesitate to text her a question if I got stumped, and I know she would answer.

Not sure if the Staffies have stronger teeth than GSDs, but over 5 years, no issues. I do get them big enough where they gnaw the ends more than bite down. Quality ones can be expensive too! Amazon has a great variety.

May I ask what a WI GSD is? I get the GSD as used to own one, but not familiar with the WI at all.
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