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Old 03-28-2015, 11:53 PM   #11 (permalink)
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My seven year old male is an offspring of Cliff, and from Bachbett Kennel. He is also from a Finnish line. Good dogs. We also have his half sister.
WOW seriously??? Those dogs are the rock stars in Boxer world! Serious freaking dogs! I'm waiting to unload on one of the members on the GSD forum! Yeah I'm the Boxer guy on there!

He said we treat our dogs like toddlers and implied they were "all" goofy!
For the "American" line dogs... yeah pretty much and that's why I like them! But they (Boxers) are all working dogs! And now a days there "job" is being a family pet and companion and they are all very good at it! And my Struddell was also a very good "wing dog" to my males, she never instigated an issue but if dog one had a problem, she was right there waiting to see what needed to be done!

Daddy always handled "situations" first!

So how are they in regards to people? My GSD is aloof at best and a rather..."intense" dog! I'm not looking for that with a Boxer! I want another happy ,people loving, goofy dog in my next Boxer! So I tend towards the "American lines" myself.

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Both used a prong collar in obedience class to start out. It was not a choke, so they just felt the prongs if they pulled too hard. So if they DID pull hard against the prongs they learned to stop. It was not like we (master) was popping their collar to control them.
If you were expecting any protestations from me?? Sorry to disappoint! When used properly a prong "should" be used as you described!
It provides feed back to the dog.

Problem is (for most) it is a "tool" that takes skill and understanding to use! And if you use it incorrectly on a dog...that dog will "never" walk properly on a leash! Like an E collar a Prong when used correctly, can help train a dog quickly!

I understand most of the mistakes people make and how to best avoid them! I turned my WL OSD, High Rank drive, Human Aggressive, GSD into a dog that is now safe in public. And I did it without the use of tools, so that's what "I" advocate.
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Old 03-29-2015, 01:26 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Loose leash training

This is in my view the "best" way to teach your dog to walk on a loose leash! Disregard the size of the dog it's the principle that is important! Slip lead leash is what I have found to be very effective. If you can get this done in this manner your well on your way to becoming your dogs leader!

If you combine this technique with the "advise" and the "demeanor" of "Jeff Gellman" above, then you can get the dog you want and not the dog you have!

Doesn't matter if you think you can't be "that guy"...you only have to "fool" your dog into believing you are! And let's face it, Boxers will believe anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=gnwfZ7xv-E0 Forgot to add this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-VJXhM0iJo

Be like Jeff!
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"Jumping up"
As I said in the thread this links to this is advise from an expert in the field a skill that is easy to learn and transfer! My "knee" thing stopped my girl from jumping on me! It did not stop her from jumping on others! This is better!

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https://www.boxerforums.com/general-b...ed-my-dog.html

These links... the first is my list of my standard "Dog Park" warnings:
https://www.boxerforums.com/1728673-post37.html

This is from one of the leading experts in the dog world
https://www.boxerforums.com/1729257-post38.html

For my purposes.. I'll 'assume" No dog Parks"...don't make problems for your self you have to "fix!"

But if you do and have a "Bad Day"...well I'll get to "my dog is reactive on leash" further down the road
Sorry to add another Dog Park "warning" beware the owners! Nothing more to say here.

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"The Place Command"
Why the “Place” Command is So Important and Your Dog Should Know It! : TheDogTrainingSecret.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIGq_5r0DeE

I can't emphasize enough how important it is to teach your dog this command! This is your best tool for controlling the crazy company coming over Boxer "nuttiness" and other such ill behaviour<

I know many of us do/did the family and friends knocking on the door thing. Having learned more since Struddell, I now understand that "technique" is pretty much the equivalent of "stopping dog reactivity" by facing barking dogs behind a fence and telling your dog to behave! To much, to soon and the dog is way over threshold and they aren't listening!

I've found sources for much more information and I'am actually amazed and stunned! Turns out the things I advocate are the same things that "balanced trainers do!"

Balanced trainers tend to use more "tools" than I do but I don't have to turn out clients dogs fast. They will tell you the why and how of a "prong" or an "e collar." You'll understand that using one of these tells requires much more than simply purchasing them and going to town on your dog.

Most of us aren't in a hurry and most of our dogs are not wildly out of control! A few are and those are the dogs that will put the "owner" through the ringer! They can still be trained, I believe "tool" free "Slip leash" but owners of those dogs will really need to have their crap together!

So I've said plenty about the "Place Command" so now I'll just add this to the info above! Happy reading. :

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Well I almost hate to post this. But I have to because yet again, I can't believe that "I" am the only one that can do it!

Loose leash walking as I posted is what I do.

We went to our friends to meet there new Boxers, as expected typical Boxer first time I saw him, but we were old friends already!!

We talked about the walk, dog pulls, they have deer, dog chases deer, almost lost him. It's a problem. We go for a walk, the dog pulls on leash, we walk a bit more. I say let me try.

I un do the clip, from the collar, fashion a noose and take the dog! Boom instant "no pull" nothing, we walk zero issues! He explains to me how the Deer chasing is a problem.

So we stop and talk, dog standing quietly by my side. I'm explaining to him how, yes that sounds pretty bad and most likely you will need an E collar and the Crittering protocol to stop it. But it's going to be kind of hard because where are you going to find a Deer to practice on??

It's at this point that I finally notice the "deer" chasing dog is standing quietly by my side but he's staring at something???

I look at the dog follow his gaze up the hill and lo and behold, two freaking deer standing 30 yards away staring at us??? I was stunned??? I say let's go and we move on, no muss, no fuss, no drama!

I had also been explaining how if you use a prong, it should look like (what we were doing) but he was already pretty sold on the loose leash thing and did not see the point of a prong collar.

Yet again another you tube moment blown! But on the other hand yet ,again if you can get loose leash walking down the way it's shown in the clip I linked. You can walk any dog on a loose leash!
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"Jumping up"
As I said in the thread this links to this is advise from an expert in the field a skill that is easy to learn and transfer! My "knee" thing stopped my girl from jumping on me! It did not stop her from jumping on others! This is better!

https://www.boxerforums.com/1732857-post27.html
I'm adding a "new" technique to this thread on jumping.

It's from "Lucky Dog" he's pretty impressive! Soooo is how he handles jumping.

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I have never used prong collars or anything similar. I rolled my pups on their on their back if they did anything inappropriate. Gently cause they were young. Then an "ah-ah" warning first. Now just an ah ah stops them next to the road. My dogs are awesome maybe I'm just lucky. They also walk on a loose leash when I take them on trails. All 3. Good dogs
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OK first "please stop the Alpha Rolling thing!" No one "endorses' that any more! And yes Cesar comes colose but he's Cesar, that is not what people should take from his shows and even he has toned it down!!

So yeah you got lucky, by and large Boxers are not "hard dogs!" Do that with the wrong dog...and you best have "your crap together!"

That being said Ronin reminds me off my girl! And three?? Pretty cool.;however, you got there you did good!
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Lol, I am lucky. I actually had someone stop me last weekend and ask how I had 3 that weren't pulling. They had a young female boxer. I am really interested in your take on training. You seem to know what you're doing, and I'm just asking to learn. My understanding on the 'Cesar Milan' thing is that dogs don't speak our language, so it's up to us to 'speak' theirs. And that how they communicate is to 'pin' when it's severe, or 'bite' (pinch on the neck), as a warning. With a verbal warning first. I understand this can easily be misconstrued and used improperly. You have to be calm and not ever angry. But what do you think of this theory?
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