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Old 11-07-2019, 02:34 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the advice. With a morning walk and then eating he sleeps for a while then hes outside playing and then I walk him mid afternoon then after work my husband and daughter take him to a fenced in area of the school and let him run then he pretty much crashes by 8 at night sleeps the night. The worse part is between 3-5 I try and occupy him with toys and things to chew on but the cage has always been an issue.
We had snow last night and it was funny to see him this morning he didn't know what it was. Sort of comical.
Oh is he Crate trained??? That is a little different, on here I don't think many owner's Crate there dog's???

With my two Rescues, I was much better at De-Crating then I was at keeping up the discipline, that had already been established.

With Boxer's, our dog's tend to free roam in the house, they are allowed on the furniture and they do sleep in the bed with us! And "most" of the time ... that works out fine. But with some, Breeds/Dog's that lack of structure can lead to alot of uh issues down the road???

My first WL GSD was one of the dog's that should have been Crated!! And I think not maintaining at least that discipline, was gonna prove to be ... problematic in about seven months time!!

But we got over it, and while I had to learn of stuff fast, we got'er done and he turned into a great example of the "Breed!"

If I ever get another GSD or a MAL, they will be Crated (for a long while!) No question but ... I got another APBT/Boxer, Molosser derivative. A blend of these guys.:
Molossers breeds (Molosser dogs, Molossers, Mastiff breeds)

And I went right back into Boxer mode. Bella who was crate trained without issues. She spent exactly "One Night" with us in her Crate. She was fine ... but I couldn't handle it.

So you know back to free roaming in the house, up on the furniture and she sleep's in bed with me. So you know ... my bad. But hey if a dog has no serious "people" issues?? Then I cut then a lot of slack .... apparently???

Bella is "just" a typical Dog for the most part. But she does seem to have "Doubled Down" on the Boxer females "Pig Headed-ness!" And she does seem to like "Faking" Dog Aggression???

Boxer females are uh "Different" anyway. I was always a Male Dog kinda guy, until I got Struddell (White Boxer and my first Female) and she was kinda "Different???" As in ..."why exactly, should I care about what you want me to do, when what I want to do is much more fun??" But hey we got over and she proved to be a fantastic Boxer!

And then came "Bella!" And she seems to have added ABPT (I won't quit!) to Boxer Female stubbornness??? Sight it's a bit baffling as my first APBT/Boxer was a male and he was nothing like this ... But hey we'll get over it. I'm just gonna knew new tool's ... apparently???
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Thanks for all the advice. With a morning walk and then eating he sleeps for a while then hes outside playing and then I walk him mid afternoon then after work my husband and daughter take him to a fenced in area of the school and let him run then he pretty much crashes by 8 at night sleeps the night. The worse part is between 3-5 I try and occupy him with toys and things to chew on but the cage has always been an issue.
We had snow last night and it was funny to see him this morning he didnt know what it was. Sort of comical.
I split this post up cuz you have a few things going on here.

And "Exercise and Walks" is a big one ... because you are doing both and he is still something of a "PIA" indoor's. So you know what's the deal here??? The fact of the matter is unless you don't work and your a Marathon Runner ... you will never tire a dog out??? The whole point of "exercise" is to "increase" the ability to do work.

So the more exercise he get's the better at just keeping busy he get's! And after a quick nap ... he is still ready to keep going!

I kinda always understood that myself. But most people don't?? And on the GSDForum, we had an owner that did a 15 mile bike ride with his dog daily and after getting home and a 15 minuet nap. His dog ready to go again!???

So you know ... that's not gonna work! If your not dealing with a Pug a Bull Dog or and English Mastiff (Big as they are they are kinda lazy! ) Then you need to "Train an off Switch!" And that would be ... "The Place Command!" Cuz sometimes you need to have your dog ...out of your face!

Now my freaking Cat's have decided to pee on Bella's "Space!" But I got a plan to fix that crap!!!

And I can keep Bella out of my face first thing in the "morning" with "GO!" As I can't use "Place" at the moment. So she goes, "OK" well forget you and goes to Marilyn?? And sure enough instead of enforcing "the Command" I just gave ... Marilyn engages with her!!! So it's tug and toy chasing in the freaking house!! Tic's me off!!

A dog need's to be taught to chill the heck at times! They need to learn how to cope with doing "Nothing!" LE/Military, Working Dog's and Service Dog's ... spend most of there time ...doing "Nothing!" Good enough for them ...it's good enough for me!!

But most owner's don't get that??? And Marilyn is not content to let Bella play with her toy by herself! Which she would do, if left alone! So you know toy in the lap and "there they go again!"

Now cat free, I just say "Place" and that would be an end to that crap! As if Bella was in "Place," Marilyn would "leave her alone!"

But you know, Bella is smart enough to know that well if I am not in "Place??" Then that means, I'm free to be a "tool!" sigh ...

At any rate ... if you train "The Place Command" then you "might find you don't need the Crate??

I never used a Crate with Rocky (Wl GSD) and he could be uh "actively" hostile to company! But he knew "Place!" And I could put him in "Place" and have him out with company but, I did kinda "Actively" guard his "Space." And I made it "pretty clear" to company, to not even thing about touching him!!

He was much better with strangers out and about then he was at home. A GSD, thing I guest??
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Hey Chip regarding the cat peeing where it shouldn't there is a great product called "Cat Attract." it is a replacement cat litter and it has an attractant in it that cats love. I trained my two kittens to the litter box with this and it worked great it works with problem cats too. Just thought I would add that in. I never had a problem with my cats.
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Hey Chip regarding the cat peeing where it shouldn't there is a great product called "Cat Attract." it is a replacement cat litter and it has an attractant in it that cats love. I trained my two kittens to the litter box with this and it worked great it works with problem cats too. Just thought I would add that in. I never had a problem with my cats.
I'll have to look it up but is it scoop-able also???

And no the peeing thing, it's new for me ...well been years now. But I never had an issue with, with my Ca. Cats. I had six or seven of them when we moved to NV. And my stupid neighbor (for awhile) kept getting kittens, and abandoning them to the snow in winter!! First it was Molly and her 3 kids, and then a tiny little pregnant mommy cat ... sigh with that batch I had now added 8 I did place two kittens but kept three.

And Stumpy is to Cross Eyed and Stupid??? To be let outside ... the backyard. Or maybe to cross eyed to function??? I think he only survived for the couple of week before I took the "pack" in because of the others??? Heck he might "think" he is in the litter Box for all I know???

So Stumpy Pee's in front of the litter Box (on random occasions) and then flings cat sand on it?? And I thought it was just him??? But I found FW (Fuzzy Wuzzy) Peeing in front of the Master Bed Room closet last night!!!

Sigh I'm down to Four and I was pretty much done with Cat's and then came Bob!

And while Bella is pretty good with "Cat's." She is not as good as Struddell, Gunther and Rocky, all of whom these remaining cat's grew up with ...

Those guy's and girl were fantastic with Cat's! On a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being the best. All three were a 10! Cat's were absolutely transparent to them. The cat's would lay down and cuddle and groom them and Gunther and Struddell, would groom them back. And Rocky ... well he just did not care about cat's. He was more like, whatever and endured the head butt's and the cat's grooming him, mostly Spooky. He was willing to put up with it, but the only creature with fur he cared about was Struddell.

But Bella ... is more like a ... 7?? She knows "her" cat's and knows Bob is not one of them??? Pay's to much attention to him!! Ticks me off! But now Cat psychology comes into play???

And while Bob has been a street cat for awhile?? He is extremely mellow! He has met Bella and there is not hissing or arched back at all! And she has met the other cat's also and again "nothing!" Stumpy did take a half assed swipe at him (or her) and missed. But that is just a Stumpy thing?? Bob did not care.

So unlike Stumpy and Spike (more so) that practice, passive aggression. IE path blocking Bella ... all the freaking time!! And Bella waits for me to make them move!! And that is Spike more so than Stumpy.

I have Spooky that luv's Bella and I have to stop them playing (frequently) cause Bella thinks Spooky is chew-able and Spooky does not seem to mind?? And FW, doesn't care and will lay down next to her and Bella pay's him no mind.

And they all grew up with dog's. But Bella was a bit much for them when she first got here. And while I did quickly get her under control ... she still came in the house with lot's of energy and it was too much for (Stumpy to a lesser degree) but Spike uh much more so! And Spike is the one that takes advantage of my hard work!! Cuz once he understand Bella was under control, it was time to be a "Tool!"

And Spooky, had almost instantly disappeared to the back room! (Hence the name) and frankly I did not expect to see her in the living room for month's??? But after a week or two she was the second cat to accept her.

We only had one incident when "Bella" grabbed FW over a Bone!! And that did not go well for her!! Outside you go, with "Extreme Prejudice!" That crap has not happened again!!! And FW (the grab-e) LOL, that incident apparently meant nothing to him, he's a "Crap Happens kinda Cat. ???

But Bob seems to be the same kinda mellow cat (like FW) that pay's no attention to any other creature in the house and get's along fine with everyone!?? And Bob appears to be just like him. Spooky on the other hand tends to prefer dog's over other cat's???

And Bob, has own litter box in the garage and knows how to use it! Only Bella is giving away my master plan, stupid dog ....
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Yeah that cat attract is for scooping but it does not have the flowery scent to cover odors too well that never mattered to me as I scoop everyday but my kittens trained real well with it and never had cat box issues I still have my male and he is 12. Funny how you got sucked into the cat thing too I did as well but the ones I take care of are outside! I am NOT a cat person per say but I love all animals and hate to see them neglected and uncared for after all they didn't ask to be here some irresponsible person let that happen. Thank you for caring for the lost souls you care for
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Just get ready to fall in love with boxers!! They are stubborn and hardheaded and do the exact opposite of what you say, but there’s never been a better dog!! They will be right there beside you every step of the way! When you get home from work or school they will be at the door shaking their whole butt!!! Oh yeah they have TONS OF ENERGY!!! But they have the funniest mannerisms and faces, but it’s the best thing in the world!!! Ours we can tell to sing and we start singing and they howl with us!! As for training, Our boxers learned tricks and stuff better by getting rewarded for doing good, rather than punishing them when they did bad! And I agree crates are the best!! We tried to lock our first boxer in a bathroom and put a rubber band on the door where shampoo was- and somehow he got the rubber band off and didn’t rip it and had ate the shampoo (his breath smelled like shampoo he ate so much), and he dragged all the toilet paper out and pooped right on it, and I couldn’t do anything but laugh cuz he was only 3 months old! I called vet to make sure he was ok swallowing shampoo!! They do have a little bit of separation anxiety though! They don’t like to be alone!! They will chew, even if it’s a blanket in the crate!!! Just be careful of stomach problems! My smaller boxer has IBD! And it’s been crazy to deal with! Hope this helps a little bit!!! Good luck!! Have fun!!
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Does anyone have experience with doing the ears? What age should it be done and how long do they have to stay bandaged? I'm crossed because I've heard its very painful as to whether or not to do it.
The Ear thing?? Well this is "American" and you can do what you want???

I had thought about it with Struddell but it was expensive to get done "Correctly" and a lot of "maintenance" is required! And it does give them a different look, more regal I would tend to say???

It was all to much bother for me?? And for me and Struddell, since her tail was already "Docked"" It was the "perfect" comprise for me and my wife! And Docky and Floppy as it were, "Floppy" ear's fitted her personally like a glove!

A Dobbie, a Great Dean or a Dogo Argentino can pull off the Regal Look bit just fine?? But for me ... your typical Boxer, not so much???

I just don't see a "Regal" look and a "Goofy Personality" as a good match myself???
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