This is funny lol I looked up their site and was looking at their dogs and one happened to look very familiar (the 3rd one top row of the stud dog page) I was at petsmart tonight and was looking at a boxer book lol and he was in it! How cool!

They do not mention any health testing on their page but my guess is that they do do it and are reputable! If you are looking to get a pup from them just ask about it

 

They seem like reputable breeders, I would ask about health testing but I agree they have BEAUTIFUL dogs!

 

I'm not too sure according to the website. However, a big red flag is the only health testing they mention is hips. Also did you read the "foster dog" information? Typically when breeders run a program like this they are only intrested in selling, selling, selling. So basically you "foster" one of their dogs until they decide they want to breed it.. Then the dog is taken from you. The dog was NEVER yours, you NEVER had rights, it was just living with you until they needed it to breed and produce puppies. Personally that is not a breeder I would choose. Most of the time breeders that do this need "foster homes" because the state has laws restricting the # of dogs they can have on their own property. Its hard to tell at this point if they are a BYB or reputable. You would need to talk to them in depth to find out why they run a foster program, if they perform any other health testings, etc.

 

I am so glad you looked further into that and posted the information!

 

I know the Bachbett's I have also spoken to them. They are very well known in the Boxer world.. German Boxer's specifically.. they breed working dogs.. in Schutzhund and Police K9s.. They are very reputable breeders and I would say one of the top in the German Boxer world. They used to be a lot more involved with the USA-BOX Association (Home) but I assume as they have gotten older are not as involved anymore.

They recently had 2 litters.. I don't know much about the litters specifically but have nice working pedigrees--that was in February 2010. They do Health test as well. As for the foster program MANY breeders do that because they want the option of possibly breeding the dog if they choose to. They layout the whole Foster program on their website so that if you choose to be a foster home you are aware of how it works.. I think that is very fair and puts the ball in your court.

But Cathy and George are not BYB they have bred tremendous dogs and they import dogs as well. They are very good trainers as well .. their bios are on there... George has trained dogs and handlers for over 20 years and Cathy has been doing it for even longer.

They are extremely knowledgeable I have gone to them on many occasions for information on the German Boxer's heart and training techniques. I could go on but these are very good breeders as well as good people that produce magnificent dogs.

Also Side note: The 3rd stud dog on the top of the line is Cliff Vom Grand Kevin (the sire to their 2 most recent litters) who is an awesome Police K-9; had his Schutzhund career ended early because a canine tooth broke and it injured his root and had an unsuccessful root canal which effects him biting a sleeve and would be extremely painful.

 

Interesting

 

Which part?

 

Foster programs are more common in other breeds, like GSDs. The dog doesn't go back to the breeder permanently when bred; she goes back during the heat cycle for the breeding, then it's with the foster family until a week or two prior to whelping; it stays with the pups until they're weaned (or until the pups are sold, depending on the other dogs the breeder has) and then goes back to the foster family until the next time (if any) she's bred. It's maybe 10 weeks a year in two or three years.

Most breeders do not have the time or room for a full-fledged breeding program (and most of John Q Public would call them 'puppymillers' if they did). Fostering dogs, or placing them out on co-ownerships, allows a breeder to utilize a broader genetic base within their own breeding program than they'd otherwise be able to, when limited to two or three dogs.

I'm not personally a fan of flat-out foster programs, because I think they're heavily weighted toward the seller, but I don't think the majority go so far as to be unreasonable, either. True, the buyer gets a free dog with only a few strings -- but my first Boxer bitch was free on a co-ownership and I got a pick puppy back from her first litter (any future litters were mine outright). I'd rather have the owners feel like partners in the process, I guess. Neither view is right or wrong, just different.

As far as the dogs, it depends on what you want in a Boxer. Often dogs from breeders who focus on sports like Schutzhund have a more intense temperament than those from breeders who focus more on the all-around dog; those temperaments are often not well-suited for first-time dog owners, or people who don't plan on doing many formal activities with their dogs. Also, the German Boxer fancy in general does not test for ARVC or thyroid, if those are issues of concern for you.

 

von Bachbett boxers

Hello All,
I came across this thread and joined just to reply!
My husband and I have had the opportunity to own a Von BachBett Boxer, his name was "Two". "Two" was my dream dog, he was everything the breed is supposed to be. Dam = Sgt Dolly, Sire = Sgt Ivo. He was a big boy, 97lbs, had an even bigger heart, very smart and trainable, and was the BEST DOG I've ever known. His working background in no way arrested the sweet endearing traits the breed is known for. I would not hesitate to reccomend George and Cathys' dogs to anyone looking for a working Boxer, they KNOW what they are doing as breeders/trainers, even more important they breed to better the Boxer. Cliff is a spectacular Boxer, yet Cathys' bitch Xenia von Sparta was perhaps the most titled dog I've ever met. When you see in person the bond these two have with their dogs and the depth of understanding they have of the breed, you would also not hesitate obtaining a dog from them.

 

Hi Jennifer,

Very good post & I know you have much expertise in the breed. I also own two Boxers from German/Italian working lines as you might know & you're right in that they do have a more "intense" personality but just as the new member Heather added the intensity & drive to work doesn't one iota detract from the other attributes that the Boxer has been bred for & is known for. As I've stated before, my two import-lined Boxers are fantastic with children (love them like crazy!), are exceptionally friendly with strangers (but would be/are protective in instances where appoached in a highly aggressive manner) and are particularly tractable. Their training has been a veritable cinch compared to my American-bred Boxer & past dogs of varying breeds. They also are very driven when out of doors & playing or "working" but indoors they like to simply laze around, cuddle & cozy up on your lap...argh! My own male is 88 pounds of solid rippling muscle!

So it may very well be true that the working lined Boxers might not be the better bet for a first time dog owner, but I guess that recommendation could be tempered by the level of committment & knowledge the perspective owner may have acquired through reading & interactions with numerous "dog people" & what goals/activities they hope to achieve & pursue with their Boxer.

Again, in a perfect world - our Boxers should be able to compete equally well in both conformation & in sports such as Schutzhund and in fields such as militia & police work. I guess unfortunately the majority of breeders tend to focus on one or the other. But truly, these imported Boxers are every bit as loving & fantastic with kids as their American counterparts; I have yet to see a "sharp" Boxer - but they are also very capable of tackling the original type work they were intended to as well. They are a really great all-around working breed.